Originally posted by murph i think where you have modeled his arms downward - his chest still looks like it is extended, (out and flat) as though he were arms open wide. even in the pics youv'e posted the pecs duck into the delts and become more rounded at the top and bottom. not sure what u mean.. but this is not an anotomically correct character, this is not a human character, afterall , he has wings and a set of horns... so minute human details are not really imperative. i just used them as refs as i modeled from the character design. as i posted the link earlier https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...emon_wings.jpg