dylanjones, Am I interested?! Hell yeah. :attn: Thank you!! Here's my E-mail: James@morphicmotion.com I've been running new ideas through my brain ever since I sort of failed with my foot rig last year but now I'm ready to sit down and figure this thing out. By the way, here's a link to a video clip that show the foot rig I came up with last year. The whole thing is based on the ability of a mel script that I wrote which reverses the hierarchy of the foot rig. Like I said before, it works well for posing and manipulating the foot but it doesn't keyframe anything so you can't play back the moves. foot rig