They just aren't working. I select the verticies of the suspendors, then I select a locator and constrain. It then calculates as if the constrain never existed! I tried the verticies on the suspendors then the belt model and constrain, still no dice. Anyone know a good tutorial that explains cloth constraints? Anyone the answer to my problem? 'Cause this sucks, I can't continue with the work on my character until I fix this!!! Oh and what attribute makes the cloth more stiff?? And can two pieces of cloth have two different 'cpProperty"s and/or two different 'cpSolver''s. Help!!!