hi, the lads nailed it. Much better than I could. I remember drawing a face once and thinking there's something wrong, what is It what is it, I was measuring the eye relative to the nose and it seemed fine, but when I measured it to the outline of the face, it was COMPLETELY off, too late though, it was pencil and I had to live with it. You, we, can change things thanks to the environment we work in.

You got some very good advise from those lads.

I particularly liked the message of distraction and yes, as I was trying to say, siluet.

go mate go...

I have to rush to a final cut seminar, I don't think i answered your question?? Just woke up, anymore queries write them up...