thx for the links guys

i like the creativeCOW one it has some nice stuff on there as i have only just started usin AE an its a maze of options that i dont understand at the mo and it dose give me some gip ie. i wanted to render out a 5 sec clip that i was usin to practice in mpeg 4 or QT .mov and they wouldnt render out ther sound an crashed part way through even though it worked fine in divx format but i will slowly get better