i checked my e mail and i loged into the site u gave it's really good but i didn't buy anything yet. i had a 36 point and by mistake bought the hunted house now i don't have any points so .... i guess i am scrwed!!:angery: i would like to ask you a question do you think buying a book and learn from a book is worthy or buing tutorials and learn it live is better ? which one is more worthy ? i downloded the dog video but could not make the right tuch specially when adjusting the nerbs(sheer), any way i found it some how difficult to deal with , afterwards i downloaded the GI modeling and texturing but did not start yet?? after those i wasted my money on the hunted house thing :attn: anyway i think i must buy a book to get the basics , i am very good with photoshop and fireworks and some other applications but maya is different as i see it