I've been busy modelling, rigging, weighing, &c &c and here is the final result. Both characters are fully articulated, and all of the facial controls work!!! The problem here is mainly that I don't know squat about lighting, and it's been hit-or-miss (mostly miss)! Comments and suggestions are welcome, of course! BTW using Mental Ray as the rendering tool, with ray trace shadows. One BIG lighting problem comes from the robot. He has a working "tesla coil" on his back (which animates a lightning arc as he walks); the lightning sort of "overlights" the scene, and I can't seem to turn it off! I tried setting the brightness lower when I created it, but it still seems too bright! Fire at will, fellow MAYAns! Regards to all! Lt. Jim NYC, USA