Originally posted by BabyDuck oh ok thanks, that worked actually it does not. it did when i tried it out, but now if i have the show manipulator or not, it wont show, even when i switch to move, and then back to show manipulator. and in settings/preferrences i could not find any. the help only suggests what to do if you loose the manipulator, but not if the manipulator decides not to come when summoned