thanks , he is using lightwave. different program, I contact him. he helps little bite. but not enugh. I made a obot and also amde a car. need put them together. so it is bit hard. not really, but need know some easy way. he knows. may he dowsn't want tell everyone. i,m still keep going with my project. but i never give up. also i need blueprint(imageplane) of under the car and engine of the car. does anyone know how looks like or any website or link? thanks for replay.