Originally posted by Emo um... I have the beta of MR they are giving out to 4.5 people at the AW site but I dont really see a difference one thing I dont like about it is that it wont render PaintFX... -Emo you should not judge a renderer by what it cannot do, but what it can. if you seen no difference, then you did not need mr for your renders. the big advantages of mr beta over maya renderer are: global illumination + final gather caustics dof not as postprocess, but while rendering right, it cannot use pfx yet and therefore no fur either. and my favourite renderer? any renderer - my model looks equally good/bad on any renderer