Wow! Looks stunningly real! Excellent job, dilberts, IMHO. And, 4 hours isn't bad at all. I'll have to keep Maxwell in mind when I'm rendering a sole object in a scene. But, DjbLAZER, I have a question for you, since you brang up that point. Let's say I wanted to render an object in no type of environment. Can I alter the background color in any way, or should it be black? As I typed that, I realized something that I thought I'd share. If Maxwell can give you such beautiful results, why not render the shot you want, and add the background, reflections, and highlights in post?..........I think I just gave myself, and hopefully anyone reading this, a great reason to give Maxwell and/or Indigo a try!:attn: