Well I`m scrapping all the above ideas (anyone want to use them feel free). This will be my 4th challenge in a row and I feel humans is all I make. My first was the killer chair thing attacking a human, the second was my space robot thing - which looked human and then the medusa project. That and the fact thats what I do all day in work (make human characters) so I wanted to do something different. (oh I forgot about grimlock - well he transforms in to a humanoride character. Going to make a "vanship". They are sort of like a clipped plane. I saw them in the series "Last exile" (great show go buy it - you`ll not be sorry). Alot of the intstruments run of water and I beleve these fit right in with the challenage. https://www.lastexiledvd.com/desktops/wall06_800.jpg Going to build it like this one then change it after, giving it the personal touch.(like adding some guns for a start )