Originally posted by lealar Hi ColdWave, I had same problems before. Then I make a lots scenes render again again even over midnight. I think must know where from the lights and go to where, that's very key. Here is a testing with mental ray and maxwell render. Hope to help you. Now I had much more questions want to learn and understand, Help each other. keep up! That's what im talkin` about man ... : ) 10x dude ... yeah i have the same thing render , after render and don't work : ) :angery: 10x a lot !