oh yeah - that's right - it was krishna. my bad. that was a cool model and would definitely be worth getting back in to. the mr renders that i've been doing, i think, have just been set to preview global illumination, with final gather set to 60 and i was using a couple of mr area lights and a couple of spot lights. i haven't done too much rendering so the settings are pretty much set to default - i'm planning to play with mr's settings once i get everything modeled in my scene. this model is looking very cool.