I agree it can be nice, but this is not a "human" face. That I would find much easier to accomplish. I am making a hybrid human/lion(?) type look. Also, the toughest part is the mouth, as a lions mouth is quite long(?) where a humans is more on a circle. I thought about just stretching a human mouth, but I feel it distorts the face as a whole. I guess I could always make the edges of the mouth myself. This is something I have wanted to learn and do for a long time. I can see in my mind what I want, but I can't seem to express it the way I like in maya, and its frusterating. It never seems to come out the way I like. gggrrr I guess I am trying to be too perfect and in the end, its my own downfall. Or it could be a lack of experience... heh