R@nsid Yep absolutely, very similar to my comment about getting a half decent story, and not letting the vfx drive the movie. I saw Transformers actually for the first time last week on DVD (it was never one for my attention at the cinema, and I wasnt going to waste my well earnt cash to see it, ILM or not) My reaction to it was basically 'whats that noise'!!! VFX were cool, I'd expect nothing less from ILM, Shia la Bouef was wasted, that guy has talent, and all he did was whine, lets hope he's better in Indiana Jones, the girl - great eye candy (not worth a box of kleenex over though) but thats it. The Mum and Dad and the head of the 'secret service' lot were the best things in it, they were the only things with character. I dont think any VFX dude reading this would take it to heart as most of those guys are just doing whats asked of them, its down to the big bosses who allow this trash to be made. Its all a bit like fast food, looks and smells great on the outside, but once tasted you realise its all crap on the inside. oh and Doesnt do what it says on the tin... cheers Jay