thats pretty darn close gubar sorry i should have made it clear for those fortunate enough not to have had a run in with the chav kind....delinquent youths is about right, they usually hang in groups of 10, they are eye-contact agressive and dont seem to speak any recognisable language and have a habit of tucking their shell suit bottoms into long white socks(kind of in the baseball player style)...I think there is a dedicated site called chavscum.com for you to check out the life cycle of the urban or lesser spotted chav and soon to be released-walking with chavs, a real time documentary suaing computer graphics to retell a day in the life of an alpha male chav and his click-they had to use computer graphics as real chavs are far too dangerous to approach hehe...yeah acid, i would have loved an initial d machine too-but i got the ps2 and psp versions so its all good. hope the above helps you out with your voyage of discovery arran enjoy