thanks for the comments gys... Chirone i use a wacom tablet which is very good its the best ive used so far.. hammer.horror: (this is the first finished version of this tutorial that i've seen!) I could relate to that... I finished the model in maya age's ago but just only recently detailed the thing in zbrush bigtommyb. I intend to texture the thing but still tring to get my head around zbrush. Texturing in zbrush looks like good fun. I kinda like the idea of the steampunk will give a try... any more ideals will be welcomed