i know guys it not for want of trying, i have tried to use lightwave but find it very difficult, and r uni lecture to put it bluntly is Shit, he hasnt a clue about lightwave, so how can he expect us to do something in a program he hasnt taught us. thats y i want to do it in maya cuz at least i can produce some work 
thanks guys for the help by the way
the more I Think I know about Maya the less I seem to know about it.
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