Thanks a lot guys. I will buy that book "Drawing on the right side of the brain" next time i go to a book store. As for mtmckinley, well i have seen you sketch your medusa head character and that to me is great. Kurt seems to be the best drawer i have seen on here though, real talent. Thanks Tariqrf for the advice, i will start off by drawing this speaker on my desk (A box). Then move on to my printer (laserjet, aka multiple boxes). If I ever get to the point when i can draw good i will post it on the newbie form to show you what i have learned. Maybe i could get some tips.. heh. Ok, Thanks again.