looks like a lot of work mate!!! well done so far...looks complicated too? congrats on the 1000 posts! I tried a 'beer' icon but it sems to have disappeared? so have a beer! Yeah there is a Tonne of stuff that wont be seen in the render but hell it was a great modelling challenge ...how patient you are....good luck.....its great staff... thanks alot So here is my update Thank God for the extended deadline It still needs alot of work as Im working on his specularity map and also dont like the reflections on his feet also doing some research on depth of field so here is todays upade