EDIT: Also, fix those arrow key issues, David, latest build of Opera still has them, didn't want to start a new thread for it We aim to annoy everyone that doesn't comply and use chrome That's a really cool car if I would ever attempt to model a 3D car it would be a cobra or a morgan, you'll have to post up the final thing. And good luck with it, hopefully someone will come along with a solution for you. Nilla