There are screenshots of the front ring in poly in here > https://simplymaya.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37048 heres a smoothed close up screen with the triangle https://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2825/closeup1f.jpg this one is poly close up https://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5112/closeup2y.jpg and this one is when i delete the edge and get a quad. a pinch on corner... https://img683.imageshack.us/img683/8770/closeup3.jpg