Hey Jay, Thanks mate. No hard feelings mate, I am just a complete noob when it comes to rigging / animation. You are a good Trainer as you did with vol.1 and 2, but I just need to understand more about the whys, ins and outs of grouping joints and Vol.3 is towards for intermediate that requires some already understanding about rigging. Yiap, I found it hard ! I might take this chance to ask, why do you group and re-group then regroup again, then re-group again the joints? Okay, this is a complete noob question, someone who know nothing about rig and starting. Don't get me wrong, I think vol.3 is packed with awesome information even for my little understanding about rigging and I'm sure will get back to it once I know more the foundation stuff. Thanks mate. Miguel