I can see it now dave....a lot better...looking good. Im lucky...I will just UV mine...PS the colour...and let Crazybump rip it into shape...I havent tested it out fully yet...used it on a test model for my game...worked a treat. Had to tweak the settings but man is it easy...no mucking around in Maya...just upload the saved image...or even the obj...and you have normals, spec, diffuse, occ and colour correction...which you can seave settings and reload and adjust...good program for noobs like me man

cheers bullet