don't poke yourself in the eye then, haha. By that phrase alone, I understood what you meant.

The thought had crossed my mind when posting this and the memory I have from watching behind the scenes of 2d Disney classics. As you say they would go beyond what was phycially possible slightly to sell it.

I think I will look into what jsprogg has said and set my limitations quite low, so I can still push it just a little past realism but not too much.

Thanks so much for your help, both of you.