Strarup.. the one problem with this, is that the watermark always goes back on in the exact same place.. i was thinking that too though and thought to say it.. hehe. And if you changed angles then you would get different lighting.. Actually, if you took 1 render in the exact front viewport, then panned that camera all over the place and took tons of renders.. is that what you meant strarup? Because i dont think it would work any other way.. but if it does,then thats by far the easiest way! Good thinking strarup .