Thanks dannygan.. yea i will buy mine off of ebay.. or buy&sell if i find one in there . Then i have decided to go with the intuos 6x8 then.. i wont go cheap..if i go cheap i will just end up getting a better one in the future . Thanks for the feedback guys.. sounds like the graphire series is good.. but not the sensitivity i need.. and it sounds like 4x5 is just too small for my res. , thanks again.