Maya for 3D Printing - Rapid Prototyping
In this course we're going to look at something a little different, creating technically accurate 3D printed parts.
# 31 17-04-2012 , 10:02 PM
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Ok... Here's another idea. Model a straight strand of DNA. Use the twist deformer to twist it into a helix. Duplicate this a few times to make a strand. Combine the mesh and merge the vertices, then use a bend deformer on the entire mesh to create a circle.


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# 32 17-04-2012 , 10:04 PM
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Ok... Here's another idea. Model a straight strand of DNA. Use the twist deformer to twist it into a helix. Duplicate this a few times to make a strand. Combine and mesh the mesh, then use a bend deformer on the entire mesh.

I would just use the initial helix (only with more loops and longer), combine them, then use them as a single mesh, but how to use this bend deformer that everyone's talking about? Can someone tell me where I can find it, please?

# 33 17-04-2012 , 10:08 PM
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Animation menu set > Create Deformers > Non-linear > Bend.

Rotate the bend control to be parallel and the same length as your DNA strand. Then increase the curvature in the channel box (3.14 will give you a full circle). Make sure you have -1 to 1 in the low bound to high bound.

# 34 17-04-2012 , 10:11 PM
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Select your geo
Animation menu set > Create Deformers > Non-linear > Bend.

Rotate the bend control to be parallel and the same length as your DNA strand. Then increase the curvature in the channel box (3.14 will give you a full circle). Make sure you have -1 to 1 in the low bound to high bound.

I found it already but thank you.
It looks almost like what I wanted, just need to make a longer helix for more DNA loops.

Actually, I think the DNA loops are enough, when in close-up they look great.
Thank you all!

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# 35 17-04-2012 , 10:37 PM
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Looking nice so far, but I'll try even longer threads so that the loops won't be as curly. (adding the lines between them is going to be a pain though).

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# 36 18-04-2012 , 03:39 AM
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With my method above, it wouldn't be a pain at all.


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# 37 18-04-2012 , 11:35 AM
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Here is a method I developed for creating a helical curve along a path. It has many applications including modeling a rope, cable, twisted wires, and other organic helical shapes. It has advantages over using the built in helix primitive in that you can control the path of the helix precisely.

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https://youtu.be/4QoQqt4yoXo

For the bars that go between the helix you can use an animation snapshot. I have a tutorial someplace on the site for creating a chain and fence posts that demonstrates that workflow. The idea is you sweep a bar along the same path as the one used for the helix and key it's rotation at each cv along the path.

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# 38 20-04-2012 , 11:08 AM
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Here is a method I developed for creating a helical curve along a path. It has many applications including modeling a rope, cable, twisted wires, and other organic helical shapes. It has advantages over using the built in helix primitive in that you can control the path of the helix precisely.

-Rick

https://youtu.be/4QoQqt4yoXo

For the bars that go between the helix you can use an animation snapshot. I have a tutorial someplace on the site for creating a chain and fence posts that demonstrates that workflow. The idea is you sweep a bar along the same path as the one used for the helix and key it's rotation at each cv along the path.

Cheers

I can just fill in one gap with the lines and then duplicate them in the same shape for each gap, as they're all same size. Once I'll combine them into a single mesh, I just put in a bend deformer and it will be perfect.
Thanks for the tips though, might consider using them for other stuff that doesn't have a pattern.

Now I just have to find the time (although should be less than 5 minutes) to do that. Every time I want to work on something, I figure out there's more to do and it all depends on which team members are on. -.-

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Once you create the double helix elipse you can delete history and then the issue of double translation will no longer exist. Then you can delete or save all the construction curves, combine just the double helix surfaces, and animate as you wish. But if the other method is working for you then that is cool too.


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# 40 20-04-2012 , 03:11 PM
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Once you create the double helix elipse you can delete history and then the issue of double translation will no longer exist. Then you can delete or save all the construction curves, combine just the double helix surfaces, and animate as you wish. But if the other method is working for you then that is cool too.

Well I'm still thinking atm, trying to see which way would work and what / how it will look in the end + the animation effects must be considered, as I want the circles (not as elliptic as seen in the picture) to rotate like a disc but also revolve around that sphere in the center. If I'd make them elliptic, they'd be hard to rotate like a disc properly (unless fluids or something are used, or there's some other trick to make them move while following a precise trajectory that changes the chain shape at the same time).

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You can make any path. That is the point of the method. But as you say if you just need a double helix that follows a circular path then the other approach would most likely be faster.


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# 42 20-04-2012 , 08:41 PM
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You can make any path. That is the point of the method. But as you say if you just need a double helix that follows a circular path then the other approach would most likely be faster.

So that way could there be made an ellipse's rope that does a disc-rotation without modifying its shape? (kind of like water going through an elliptic shape, following it).

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This is one I made with just a helix but I do think ctbram solution will work better............dave

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# 44 20-04-2012 , 09:19 PM
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This is one I made with just a helix but I do think ctbram solution will work better............dave

A bit flat though.
O.o if I didn't feel so lazy now, I'd get to work on them spirals, but -.- I am quite sad because of some stuff that's been happening today.

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