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nurbs/polys...
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Scratching out a head with NURBS though is a bit odd and counter intuitive. You can build a face very quickly by manipulating a NURBS sphere, but as you add other NURBS shapes for eyelids and ears you will probably wish you started patch modelling from the get go. I find Polys (starting from a primitive) better for character faces and much better for hands and such. In fact, I wouldn't advise trying to build hands from NURBS at all. A NURB is basically a rectangle at the end of the day with a single pole you can shape round (spherically or cylindrically), they're great and simple, but not so if you want multiple appendages from the same surface (you only have one 'hole' on a pole, whereas polys can grow from any face or edge). POLYs are excellant for heads, hands and feet though. For example to create a character I rough out the torso, legs and arms with NURBS. Then I convert it to a Poly object keeping all details and standard fit. Then I use the poly shape to 'grow' the hands and wrists from, then the head. Then I convert to SUBD, to smooth it on the cheap processor and performance wise, and add details.
Furniture, interiors, buildings, polygons rule, no question, they are very quick to use. I'd also say you do need both. As Polys have been around a lot longer the tools to manipulate them are very many. On the whole I find I start with NURBS as outlines and then go to polys as I said above. Also, animating and rigging a poly object is a helluva lot easier than NURBS I've found.
This is just my opinion though, the only way is to get a grip with all 3 approaches Nurbs, Polys and Subds and develop your own workflow for each 'type' of model you create,
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When animating WITHOUT painting weights you can vividly see the difference. A poly will crease at it's edges where a nurb "does not crease at its isoparms"
TO SEE IT: Create a nurbs cylinder scale up in "Y" to about 6.
In inputs: set sections & spans to 8 & 8. In skeleton > joint tool Place about 6 clicks top to bottom in your SIDE view, > enter, have skeleton selected, shift select cylinder. Go to skin > bind skin & ridged bind. Select some middle bones & pull.
Move it out of the way in all views & do the same for a poly cylinder, in inputs you change subdaxis & subdheight to 8 & 8. You will see the creasing.
Smooth bind would give better results for a poly. Try it. But when you give extream bends with edges in the way you will still notice a slight kink. Painting weights will help here.
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i disagree..Originally posted by DrMayanstein
NURBS THINK RUBBERY (organic) . . . . POLYS THINK SOLID (non-organic)
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look at studio tools or rhino or other CAD softwares,
that are primarily design tools for hrad surface and general products, and use NURBS. not becasue NURBS are "rubbery" but they allow the flexibility and control for different surface types. a poly or subD model can look just as good as a nurbs patch model. it's really up to the modelor and what he/she feels more confortable with.
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How would you create a pyramid. 3 sides & a bottom. Take it another step & make it equalateral.
By the way I respect both of your guys imput on the site.
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thansk!
im trying to leanr it all too fast i guess...BABY STEPS!!
thanks for all the input i think so far the po,lys pretty easy to me so ill go for that first then move on up!
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