true the car the costume are cool, but the crow doesn't need them cause he's already cool just like fonzie from "happy days":bow:Originally posted by Jay
Yeah but didnt the Crow possess supernatural powers so to speak where as Batman is the only superhero without 'powers.
Are you insane?I'd rather the gadgets and the coolest costume plus the car and the bike anyday...lets face it wot bloke wouldnt!!
Jay
Originally posted by Jay
Yeah but didnt the Crow possess supernatural powers so to speak where as Batman is the only superhero without 'powers.
What I loved about this movie was how many different levels it has to it. There were not two villians in this movie. There were three, maybe even four if you want to count the Mob in on things. However Primary Villian: The Joker, Secondary Villian: Batman, and third villian: Two-Face. If you listen to all of the cleverly written script and dialogue you'll understand why exactly this is so in the movie. Two-Face, I really can't call a villian so much as a victim.Originally posted by jali
having two bad guys was what killed it for me, it should have been just batman and the jocker to the end, and yes i know ledger died, but thats no excuss, Brandon Lee died while making the crow and they got some one else to take his place and that film turned out to be one of the best films of the year, well for me any way,
the crow had something that the dark knight will never have, a character that fought from the heart, he didn't need fancy cars or a special utility belt, it was just one guy making a mense for the unfortunate events that took place, lee's performence was excellently excecuted, you could sence to sorrow in his voice ,
As I said above, Heaths job as the joker was very very good. But I think that everyone in this cast did a superb job. If you take a Terrible movie and put one actor/actress in it that does the job of their life, if won't seem anywhere near as good as if they had that performance surrounded by several others who had performances almost as good. I think that this movie is so well rounded from its base up. The script, to the cast.Originally posted by mirek03
i thought Heath's acting over shadowed the whole movie.., without his superb work..,, would have to be his best.., the movie would have jyst been another 'batman' movie..,
i was thinking al through it.., considering Heaths sad passing.., 'is he acting??.., or is he really THAT angry'.., now THATS a good actor.
as for the effects.., nothing jarred me or threw me out of the movie.., so they must have been excellant.
SPOILER WARNING:Originally posted by Jay
Did they say that? I must have missed it...
Jay
As mentioned a bit above, Two-Face is not a villian. He is instead, a Victim. Two-Face is collateral damage caused by the joker and as such he cannot be a villian. As I explaind just above, the reason why two-face was killed was because Gotham would have gone out of control if they knew what Harvey had done. The next possible move for Batman is none other than the Penguin. This would be a logical progression in my mind for the story as the Penguin is a villian not of the Likes of the Joker or the Scarecrow, but rather your Carmine Valconey, or the several Mob heads featured in the Dark Knight. Why do I think it is logical progression? With the fall of the joker and all the major mobs, how can you realisticly breed another villian? The Penguin is a small scale mobster. He hold cover for which to create madness just like Batman has cover for which to do good. When you squish all the big time game in Gotham your next villian has to start small, and that is where I think the Penguin WOULD come in IF they were to do another Batman.Originally posted by gubar
I've just watched it at the imax and think it had, for 80 minutes, the best comic book movie ever made. Completely compelling, stunning action scenes and great acting all round. I can't think of many action scenes as well orchestrated as the extended chase where the joker is trying to snatch Dent, then on to the race to save him and Rachel.
It peaked there though, and lost it's footing a bit. My big problem - you've got Heath Ledger giving an amazing turn as the Joker - so why bring in Two Face!? I get that Dent was a big player in this movie, but thought he would become Two Face late on as a set up for the next installment. To introduce Two Face then kill him off half an hour later is just mind boggling.
It's a shame because for the first hour, I thought this was going to join There Will Be Blood as one of my favourite modern movies.
Could be one of those movies that improves with repeat viewings though.
cheers
gubar
well said.., you seem to know a bit about movies.., do you know why it has been structured in this way??What I loved about this movie was how many different levels it has to it. There were not two villians in this movie. There were three, maybe even four if you want to count the Mob in on things. However Primary Villian: The Joker, Secondary Villian: Batman, and third villian: Two-Face. If you listen to all of the cleverly written script and dialogue you'll understand why exactly this is so in the movie. Two-Face, I really can't call a villian so much as a victim.