Bahahah legend, I didnt have ANY computer up until a few years ago!!! We use civilCAD here in Western Australia and Carlson SurvCE on the PDA. I only just started using AutoCAD for object placement in 3D as civilCAD doesnt have it. You would remember measuring 'chains' (steel banded tape), spring balances, plumb bobs and optical squares??? Yeh I hate the office too BUT here in Oz they are all now computer reliant, especially now a lot of the stuff is GPS machine control i.e NO PEGS!!!!!! wwwooohhhhoooooo. Just sit down, DTM's etc and upload to the Digger/Grader etc and watch em go!
And legend we DONT have to design them really, we just input the data by hand and change it all AS IT NEVER works, bahahahaha. All these designers really dont have a clue!!
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"A Darkness at Sethanon", a book I aspire to model some of the charcters and scenes