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# 16 25-02-2012 , 05:55 PM

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are you overclocking the processor because the e5200 shouldnt be running at that speed. Try restoring it to its original speed

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# 17 25-02-2012 , 06:33 PM

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are you overclocking the processor because the e5200 shouldnt be running at that speed. Try restoring it to its original speed

Originally Posted by murambi

Good catch! It should be at 2.5 GHz.

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# 18 25-02-2012 , 11:17 PM

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Gah, meant to say 2.5, used to have it overclocked a while ago so I got used to typing that.

Just checked the event logs, nothing significant there, same story with Process Explorer, pretty much nothing being used, even when trying to stress it with opening a bunch of apps.

Is it possible for this to be caused by the PC being under powered? 'Cause I'm fairly sure mine is, I only have a 430w PSU to run all that.

Hijackthis is installing at the moment, will check it out after I clean.

EDIT: No idea what any of this means, so here's the Hijackthis log:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/35400504/hijackthis.log

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# 19 26-02-2012 , 12:44 AM

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-It could be an OS problem ( reinstalling windows is imo the only viable thing then)
-It could be a hardware problem:
HDD is dying
Your RAM/HDD not quick enough or has wrong memorytiming which runs out of sync with your overclocked Processor
An uinderpowered PSU, or one that is at the end of its life could definitely be the issue.

It could be a miljon other things as well, what I would do is think back up until the moment the computer started misbehaving, did something funny happen before or around that time, did you do anything to it ( installing software/upgrading hardware etc).

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# 20 26-02-2012 , 01:55 AM

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I know nothing about PC's acid but mine ran really slow due to a PSU being underpowered...I switched to a higher output one and it worked a treat. Like mastone said though (and I have had to do this)...process of elimination, unplugging, plugging in etc etc ad nauseum until you can nail it down. I have also had a dicky RAM stick, replaced it and all was good. Good luck mate...I hate computers LOL

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# 21 26-02-2012 , 01:56 AM

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I honestly have no idea when it started going wrong, at the time it started would have been when I started working, so all my PC time would have been spent on Maya 2012, which was was always slow as crap anyways.

If I can figure out a way to back up all my crap I'll probably end up formatting, but the only space I have for backup is about 15Gb left of my backup drive, 16Gb flash drive, and 20Gb on my laptop. Sounds like a lot, but I have a ton of files that need saving.

I'd check the RAM, but I had to throw out all my extra PC boxes and crap to make room in the baby's bedroom, and evidentially my extra RAM and CPU were both in one of those boxes. Would Memtest be sufficient for most problems or does it miss thing? Also, how long does that thing take? I've never waited for it to finish it's process

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# 22 26-02-2012 , 02:09 AM

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Is it possible for this to be caused by the PC being under powered? 'Cause I'm fairly sure mine is, I only have a 430w PSU to run all that.

Originally Posted by Acid44

Man thats hard to say if it's a OS problem. You would think that your malware removers would have picked up errors somewhere, usually in the registry.

A 430 watt power supply is still pretty decent with what your running, but if it's going out, your sluggish PC may be an indicator. Regarding your ram, replace it with new DDR2 sticks to see if that works just like Bullet suggests. I would replace both the power supply and ram.

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# 23 26-02-2012 , 02:48 AM

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dont know if this is any help at all acid? Like I said I know SFA about computers though...so this might not be useful

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https://www.computer-how-to-guide.com...st-bad-memory/

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# 24 26-02-2012 , 03:32 AM

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Hmm. Already know all that, just trying to avoid running Memtest because I still have to use this PC for work, and that crap takes ages. Might run it tomorrow while I'm out of the house though, hopefully it will have enough time to catch anything/do a few scans

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# 25 26-02-2012 , 04:58 AM

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Does it happen when you're in safe mode?

What are all the components on the mobo? I'll take a look and see if it's a power issue.

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# 26 26-02-2012 , 05:38 AM

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No clue, don't really want to restart in to safe mode in case it takes an hour to start, or just doesn't start at all.

I'm guessing you mean what's plugged in to the mobo? If so:

CPU
2x 2Gb DDR2 RAM sticks
EVGA GTS 250
DVD ROM drive (IDE)
Standard CPU cooler
2x SATA HDDs

Think that's all for the mobo, as for plugged in to the PSU:

All of the above
NZXT Sentry2 fan controller - running a Scythe 3000 RPM fan, blue LED 1600 RPM fan, and basic 1600 RPM fan
2x 12 inch cold cathode tubes
And just the mouse leeching power from the USB, possibly Logitech G27 aswell, but I don't think that takes any power from the PC as it has it's own power supply

EDIT: And this is the motherboard: https://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...442&CatId=3461

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# 27 26-02-2012 , 11:28 AM

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There were only few occasions when my older pcs would start slowly.
Reasons:
1 - using an AV that isn't fit for the system / uses too many resources. I stood away from Kaspersky and Norton because of that (and imo Norton is crap). Also, Malwarebytes might stop internet connection for whatever reason or cause slowing. I've used that one and no idea why it does it but I uninstalled it. Stay away from Combofix, it can seriously screw up things!
2 - some well-hidden trojan running. Had to remove it manually.
3 - Installing performance apps actually slowed it down. My computer now uses absolutely no performance programs and I believe they are mostly just rain water... Current PC works fine but it's a new one so it's been working for about 2 years now.
4 - not allowing the computer to reboot at least once every 2 days. I reboot mine daily and even give it time to cool down over night. For some reason, most of the people who were saying their pc runs slow have been letting it run without a reboot for well over a month.

I've fixed those easily though even for the older ones such as a P2 I had back in 2000, but also the P4s. Try checking if you have any of the above and if you can't fix it this time and have to reinstall windows, remember to restart it more often and if possible give it a cooldown of at least 1 hour.

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# 28 26-02-2012 , 01:19 PM

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What I would do is buy another HDD ( they're not that expensive nowadays) install a fresh windows on there and see how it runs if it works fine then I would reinstall Windows .
I think this is the only sure way of filtering problems out.
If it's still sluggish it's probably something Hardware related ( RAM/PSU etc)

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# 29 27-02-2012 , 01:25 AM

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I dunno mate. My last guess would be that your CPU is going. It's getting old, it's a low-power chip (~65 W), and you've overclocked it in the past. (Energy-efficient chips are not built to handle that. They're already pushing what they can safely do)

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# 30 27-02-2012 , 07:48 PM

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I've just found out last night that while my PC is set to defrag every wednesday at 1AM, it hasn't done it since October 5th of last year. I think I'm right in saying that every application on my PC has been changed/upgraded since then, and I know for a fact that since then at least 200 Gb of crap has been added to the hard drives.

So I ran defrag last night, figured it wouldn't take to long, damn was I wrong. It's been about 12 hours now and the C drive was 43% of the way through pass 13, but then I tried to open Opera to post this and it canceled itself. Gonna run it again tonight, but could fragmenting slow a PC this much?

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