Boeing 747 or 737 modeling

# 1 06-10-2004 , 09:36 PM

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Hi there,

I started a Boeing modeling for my learning lessons and for a class work.

I hope anyone can help me out or indicate a boeing modeling tutor, because I have tried the aircraft ones, but almost all of them were for 3Dstudio Max.

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Closer 1 and 2:

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What do you think about?
Did I started wrong?
How can I close the hole at the back of the boeing? And which type of modeling is the best to do the front?

Thanks. I hope for some helping,

Jean Carlos

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# 2 06-10-2004 , 09:52 PM

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you could convert it to polys and merge vertices..

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# 3 06-10-2004 , 10:41 PM

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As I follow along with Kurts T-Rex tutorial, I've discovered that his workflow is awsome for just about anything curvy with detail.

1. Rough out the shapes with NURBS spheres
2. Convert to Polygons and attach all of the pieces + add a little detail
3. Convert to Sub-D's and add in the finer detail

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# 4 07-10-2004 , 12:36 PM

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Thanks Exdaix!

I am trying to do with polys, but I dont know if its working out correcty..

take a look:

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Tell me, any suggestions? The front and the body are combined but when I move the edges of the body, we see its not plugged...

Can you help?

Thanks..

Jean

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# 5 07-10-2004 , 12:39 PM

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You might want to try splitting the faces on the main body a little more so you can connect all the CV's in the nose. Might make the geometry a little messy though.

Good start though

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# 6 07-10-2004 , 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by Jean Carlos
Thanks Exdaix!

I am trying to do with polys, but I dont know if its working out correcty..

take a look:

Tell me, any suggestions? The front and the body are combined but when I move the edges of the body, we see its not plugged...

Can you help?

Thanks..

Jean

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After you selected both pieces and did a Combine, did you merge the verticies? Also, you are going to want to use the split polygon tool to make as much as you can 4 sided.

Take a look at my attached pic. Use the Split Polygon tool and split from where the red lines start all the way down the plane so you keep with the quads all the way down the length.

Then Combine them if you un-did that, and merge the verticies in the pink (some have lines showing which verticies I would connect together).

The two verticies circles in blue I would try merging together also, then in turn, merging it to the verticie on the sphere.

Also, you could try deleting your current nose cone and make a new sphere that is rotated in it side so the origin point (the polace where all of the triangles come together) is facing towards the front of the plane. That would make your life easier probably, and reduce your number of triangles.

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# 7 08-10-2004 , 01:34 AM

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I think the front I'll do later. I did it again, but not as quite as I will...

Now I am doing the wing, take a look:

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Am I doing right? you can comparate with the blueprints, but the greatest doubt is if how do more detail and merge with body... I am a little lost what to do now.

Thanks for the great helping.

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# 8 08-10-2004 , 01:44 AM

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Just delete the faces of the wing that are inside of the fuselage, then Combine the two polygons and merge the verticies. Your going to want to use the Split Polygon tool again so you have "mates" for each vertice of the wing. Currently you have many many more divisions on the wing than on the fuselage it is going to attach to, so do a bunch of split polygons around the fuselage that match up with the wing verticies.

To add detail in Sub-D mode, when you get to it, all you do is switch to Vertice mode as you do with polygons and move them around to make the shapes you want. To add more detail you need more verticies, which means you will need to use the Split Polygon tool (you can use it in Sub-D mode too) to split the areas that need more divisions (and thus more verticies to move).

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# 9 08-10-2004 , 06:52 AM

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Split Poly Tool is your friend user added image

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# 10 08-10-2004 , 01:04 PM

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Hi again,

I did what you guys told me, and I am a little lost again... I dont know how to get the wing of the blueprint... you know, I can't see getting there...

Take a look:

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And the rendered one:

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Hm... I want to get something like this:

https://www.cgtalk.com/search.php?searchid=487939

Thx!
Jean Carlos

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# 11 08-10-2004 , 01:33 PM

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Im not quite sure what you mean, are you asking how to actually see you wing blueprint through the wing?

If yes, either create a lambert and put the transparency to about half or goto Shading ----> Shade Options ----> X-Ray

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# 12 08-10-2004 , 10:30 PM

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this boing you can do better in nurbs, i think. to close the hulls, right click in object and select hull. select again the extreme hull and zoom it very very close. this hull becam very small and in a normal zoom is "a close hull".

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# 13 09-10-2004 , 12:23 PM

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This is true, you could get some nice results if you have curves and loft.

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# 14 09-10-2004 , 01:26 PM

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*begins to have flashbacks of my Computer 3D Modeling course and those darn planes...* user added image

That reminds me of the time I had to model a plane for a course...I did not have to model a Boeing, but I used an American West Boeing 737 to practice with in order to learn how to use Rhinoceros 3D and also to have a basis idea of how I could model the plane for the class...I would have finished it too, but the program kept on freezing and crashing when I tried making a row of seats inside the Boeing. I made the entire row of seats outside the plane first, but when I tried moving them into the plane body, my program froze and crashed each time...I gave up after 2 or 3 consecutive tries of rebuilding the seats and putting them into the plane. user added image

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# 15 09-10-2004 , 01:43 PM

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Going on with my boeing model, I think the wing its 'more or less' so I decided to do the other parts and then I got a problem (as usual), take a look:

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