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Unreal 3 engine...
is it that good?
Anybody has had contact with it and isnt tied to an NDA on the matter?
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i do dig it...
what i find stange is the paradigm shift of most of the developers are licensing it and writting just the game logic instead of writing their own engine as most of them came doing until now...
i meant "is it that good on the development side"
Im wondering exactly what that means...
Does it means that leveraging the complexity of the new tech is so hard it is better safer and chaeper licensing it for lets say something slightly under the million $ plus a low two digit % of the benefits?
Did they also bought and assimilated all the would be competitors like with the Reality Engine?
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In terms of actually developing games, the benefit of using existing engines is reduced R&D time. Since the core engine elements are done, all you need to do is customize it for the product and create the content (easier said than done, of course). Less time spent making the tools, more time spent making the game. For many developers the cost of licensing and royalties is worth it. It could simply be a time and money issue. It could also be an experience issue. Writing your own game engine is no small feat, and not everyone can (or should) do it.
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1) Cytec
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It’s cheaper to buy another engine then to build one from scratch and why try to reinvent the wheel,, just make it better.
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Yeah, yeah, i knew (well better said i supected it)...Originally posted by dannyngan
Which game engine a developer uses is largely determined by the kinds of the products they develop and how they want to develop those titles. Obviously, for first person shooters, Unreal is a good engine. [...]
In terms of actually developing games, the benefit of using existing engines is reduced R&D time. Since the core engine elements are done, all you need to do is customize it for the product and create the content (easier said than done, of course). Less time spent making the tools, more time spent making the game. For many developers the cost of licensing and royalties is worth it. It could simply be a time and money issue. It could also be an experience issue. Writing your own game engine is no small feat, and not everyone can (or should) do it.
But cmon microsoft?!?
if anyone shouldnt have the need to license a game engine it should be precisely them?
what does that tells us? (beyond what we suspected since QDdos and every sucessive windows... that is: that they dont know how to code well)
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Also, by using an existing engine, there's less training that needs to be done for new employees. Chances are pretty good that new team members will have already worked with an engine like Unreal or Renderware or what-have-you, so they already know the basics.
The bottom line is developers need an engine that allows them to get their games done. "Innovation" doesn't necessarily mean a shippable product. Crytec and Far Cry aren't the norm. One game out of hundreds only means it can be done, but it is far from a sure bet.
Developing an engine *and* developing a game concurrently takes a very long time. You have to split your time between tool development and content development, and you have to somehow pay for that time. Most games take at least 1 to 2 years to produce. Add an engine onto that and development time can inflate to 2-4 years. The cost of something like that can run into the several millions of dollars (gotta pay the bills, pay your employees, pay for hardwares and software). Not exactly a cheap or easy thing to do.
Licensing engine might seem to cost a lot of money up front, but it can be worthwhile invest of time and money. Spend $100k on an engine that works right now and start making a game. Or spend a few hundred thousand dollars a year for the next 2-3 years to develop an engine that may or may not work all the while trying to make a game with an engine that isn't done. Do the math.
Man, after 7 years in this industry, I'm really starting to sound like the grumpy old guy. It's Monday. :p
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watch this
man the engine looks sweet if u havent seen this vid then check it out .
https://media.pc.ign.com/media/746/746632/vids_1.html
i watch the vid every now and then 2007 seems sutch a longway off.
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