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My first character model
This is my first attempt to make my first cartoon character. This character is my professor, my great friend and very interesting person because I want complete this work.
For now this is only face
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hmmm...
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This is poly object, this is low poly object and only take smooth with division level 2.
Low poly object count 966 faces, and high poly object count 15296 faces.
Here is wire frames of low and high object!
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hmmm...
Also, you might also want to even out the sizes of the topology on the low poly mesh, for example on the forehead, cheeks and chin. You want the quads to be fairly even and consistent all throughout the mesh. One more thing, try to avoid tri's. For example around the neck and upper chest. I can notice some pinching going on in the high poly mesh which you don't want at all. If you absolutely can't get rid of them, then try to hide them in places where you won't see them, like behind the ear, armpit, groin area.
One final thought, depending on your preference, you might just want to smooth the normals so you wont have to smooth it into a hight poly mesh. Other than that, nice work! Just a bit of clean up.
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Re: hmmm...
Reduce render time? Hey, we're talking about saving about 20 triangles, that would maybe shorten the render time with about 2 milliseconds.Originally posted by djknucklez1
One thing, the mole on the right side. You probably don't need to actually model it. You can just paint it to the facial texture. This will reduce your render time. Unless you got an extreme close up shot of the mole. Don't know if you're doing this though.
That clearly isn't the same thing. Just smoothing the normals will obviously doesn't accomplish the same quality.Originally posted by djknucklez1
One final thought, depending on your preference, you might just want to smooth the normals so you wont have to smooth it into a hight poly mesh. [/B]
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Thats right, smoothing normals doesn't achieve the same kind of quality. I personally us the function to get a rough idea of what a hi-res version ( character modeling for the most part ) will look like, if I'm going for hi-res.Originally posted by DJbLAZER:
That clearly isn't the same thing. Just smoothing the normals obviously doesn't accomplish the same quality.
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And actually normals are used quite frequently believe it or not, it's even applied in movies now, but in LOV groups. Don't disregard them that easly, it's a very powerful tool.
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Originally posted by wokendreams
Also quad cores and ps3's are mainstreme now pumping out graphics with detail that requires rincles and zits. By the time one of us is industry or freelance jobs will need more detail to achieve competitiveness. They say computer power grows exponetaily, by the time youve done your schooling or any learning on cg whatever you know is outdated including no mole. Look at new cg movies and next gen games.
I agree with what you're saying. But let me use an example that can apply to our little discussion. In animation in Maya, let's say we create a bouncing ball that bounces up and down on the same spot, till it bounces no more. We know that we never have to deal with inbetweens like in 2D animation. Maya excludes many animation basics and rules in order to make our work easier. Right? Right! But still to forget about all the rules and basics of animation like Squash and stretch, inbetweens, secondary action, arcs, etc. just because the machine does it for you is ludicrous! Yes, machines are getting faster and quicker but just because they are it doesn't mean that the basic rules still don't apply. I've not met one animator that doesn't draw or apply the basic principles into their work and I've never met a 3D Modeler that doesn't sculpt or study the human form here at EA or in other companies, just because the machine does it for you. This is what separates the best from the rest. Never forget about the basics just because they're "Outdated" as you put it.
We have this guy that got hired this past summer, and his demo reel was all 2D hand drawn animation and at the end it, there was a 6 second clip in Maya of a simple character acting out a lip synch just to show that he could work in 3d. It was amazing! He had barely learned maya a month back. Got hired on the spot. I wish I had the demo reel to show here. This guy is 23 years old. I refuse to believe the old stuff gets outdated. No way! If anything it makes you a stronger artist.
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Take it easy there djknucklez1. No one here is attacking anyones work efficiency. Were just giving facts about them. I was attacking anyone. If pipistrel preffers modeling detail into his geometry, he has every right to do. The best thing to do is let pipistrel decide whats best for him.Originally quoted by djknucklez1:
Well geniuses, what I'm talking about is work efficiency. Now let's see....the mole, sure it's quite pretty. So you guys mean to tell me that we should model moles, wrinkles, small scars and pimples? Ok, yeah milliseconds in render time is nothing. But what if you got a 5 minute animation or working in a project professionally? they all add up. Do the math. Why model unnecessary detail that can easly be achieved by a simple bump map or a normal map! I think most people here want to reach a professional level in order to get a "job" in the Industry, whether it's gaming, commercial or movies.
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