I agree completely. I know metallicjet has been working hard for quite some time this week. He may not be as skilled as the other people but he puts time and effort into his stuff and that is what makes it great. I am the same way. I have spent countless hours trying to make my challenge entry as detailed as possible. I don't really think detail is a reason to bump him up. If you have seen the "mainframe I made for my bot at SimplyLightwave it looks somewhat detailed but is really just a bunch of rectangles I beveled about 30 times each. hehe. Plus I think that it would be healthy to keep us noobs in question in right now because we are creating some major competition. Hopefully this can help inspire others to see that even a noob can create nice looking models with time and effort. IMHO I think he should stay noob. But that is just me.you don't need to be extremely experienced to put in lots of detail. Everyone should learn that "beauty is in the details" at one time or another. Metallicjet simply learned it early on. this looks excellent, by the way. I don't think this knowledge is any reason to penalize him.